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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:57 pm    Post subject: Bay On Yahoo ----- Damage Control : Out Of Control Reply with quote
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I had considered it odd that Orci and Kurtzman got almost 20 minutes of yabber time on Yahoo Movies but the director, Bay, was only allotted 3 minutes. But after hearing the interview I'm sure Spielberg wishes he could have gotten to Bay before Yahoo did.

This interview was nothing but damage control. Too bad he only did more damage.

The interview is broken into 4 parts. He spends the first two parts talking about the designs and the reaction from the internet and he spends the third talking about how great it is that the designs are so complex. So he spends 3/4 of the time talking designs. So for all the spitwads who have been living in lies/denial for the last 8 months telling themselves "It's only a few people who don't like the designs" over and over again like the little engine that could, Bay's acknowledgement has solidly proven that wrong.
He spends almost HALF the interview time talking about why it was okay to alter the designs. Unfortunately he seems more like a toddler beign made to eat his beans than an adult giving an account of himself. He disdain for fandom just reeks from him and he's given keywords to use spitting out sentences that sound NOTHING like the Michael Bay who's assaulted us all of this time...

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Bay: Doing this movie I listened on the 'net quite a bit...


I nearly fell out of my seat on this one. I guess he doesn't think anyone remembers the namecalling he's done on his website of anyone who criticized the movie. Bay and his henchman Nelson have spent the better part of the last year telling us all that anyone who didn't like the designs was "b*tching" and "complaining" and "are so few they don't really matter". Is that the "listening" he was referring to?

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Bay: ....but it was basically the artwork I listened to fans' responses about in terms of robot designs...


He makes it a BIG point to reiterate "I listenened...!" Does anyone believe this bilge after 6 months of him and Murphy BANNING from their websites anyone who dared to question them ?! This isn't a joke. It's just plain crazy. He has NEVER used the words "I listened to fans" in a sentence before. Why now?! We all know. The PR firms told him "Man, people are staring to PERSONALLY dislike you because you're telling them they don't matter. You better try to sound more like you care what they think." So now Bay says he listened. Too bad we have 8 months of quotes that he didn't.

And here is the coup de grace. Here is the sentence that pretty much says it all. He's talking about why he put flames on Prime, and what we've all known for almost a year he finally admits in cold blood...

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Bay: Why flames? Because I wanted flames..... it's just I wanted flames on Optimus.


No. ladies and gentlemen, this is not a 5th grader. This is (ostensibly) a grown man......giving the same answer as a 5th grader. He has made a major alteration to a character and yet he can't even begin to explain why. Most people on drugs can't explain their behavior either. And so we have the answer to why this movie is a sick mutation of the word "Transformers". Simply put "Because I can." That rationale is fine for something you intend for no one to see but yourself, but when you're dealing with something intended for PUBLIC consumption shouldn't you have more deliberation than that?!

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Bay: There was a lot of flack originally saying "Michael Bay, you wrecked my childhood". Now we can discuss that because.. heh, heh, I don't think I wrecked your childhood because you look back at the cartoons now and they look really dated."


Is this the same Bay that Nelson said watched the original movie for 10 minutes and then laughed and turned it off?

Furthermore he's talking about G1! What about the cartoons of the last FIVE YEARS?!!! Is 5 years "dated"? He's not "improving". He's reinventing.....without permission or invitation! No, sir, The cartoons were not and are not "dated". Michael Smith PROVED that. This wild, out of control, rip out the steering wheel and toss it from the car morass is just unjustifiable.

Interviews with movie directors always talk about the "most important thing". Usually the directors talk about cute stars in the movie or big special effects. But not this time. Paramount obviously told him "This 'reinvention' garbage you did is going up in smoke. You better say SOMETHING to cam these people down!" But far from being remorseful or respectful, when he talked about the fans he snickered, sneered, rolled his eyes and showed utter contempt. Out in the open! If Speilberg is smart he'll pull that interview with due haste!

It does confirm one thing: they tried to ignore us, but THEY REALLY DID HEAR US! It didn't do us one bit of good....but at least we didn't go down without a fight. Maybe the next director will be a fan, will REALLY listen, and give the TF their due.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
He seemed like he was containing a lot of anger. Just an observation. I was quite taken aback by that, and his open mockery when he mentioned childhood wreckage. Not exactly smooth PR is it?


The flames thing, well, it's terrible that his own skewed sense of "cool" took precedence of fan fondness over the Optimus Prime image. I glazed over when he started on his "realism" justifications and how Optimus was made up of 10,000 parts. Pure cgi masturbation placed ahead of decent designs. All detail, no form.


Lastly, as far as "listening" goes, he obviously paid little heed. He even says here he changed stuff after listening to the complaints?? What did he change? the latest cgi is nigh-on identical to the earliest renders and artwork we saw..

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Bay was seething. He was livid. Just the thought of having to explain himself to us for his actions had steam coming out of his ears. If this was his idea of "damage control" he needs new PR people. Up to this point I was only able to IMAGINE the smirk and snide expression on his face when thinking about the fans. Now we can actually SEE it! He didn't even have the good sense to HIDE it. But why would he? People are proud of themselves and the way they are. Bay is proud of the way he is. As far as he's concerned it's not HIM that needs to change....it's the rest of us.

Also, let's not forget one more crucial thing this interview showed us.

BAY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DESIGNS!!!!!

We now know that Bay okayed the wild mutations because he thought he was "updating" our "dated" designs. He was the one who put flames on Prime. Not his design team. He said it outright "Because I wanted to." Whether it's a hit or miss, history should record that Bay was the architect behind all this deviation.[/i]
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Let the irrational hatred roll! Seriously, you guys are imagining the anger thing. He didn't look the slightest bit angry, he had the same 'sleepy-doof' look he always has in his interviews.

That said, that was a shitty interview period. Certainly didn't help a bit with PR, incoherent, lazily slapped together and hardly worth the three minutes it took to watch it.

And him owning up to the flames (which at least he did) sure didn't help.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Evolusionary wrote:
Bay was seething. He was livid. Just the thought of having to explain himself to us for his actions had steam coming out of his ears. If this was his idea of "damage control" he needs new PR people. Up to this point I was only able to IMAGINE the smirk and snide expression on his face when thinking about the fans. Now we can actually SEE it! He didn't even have the good sense to HIDE it. But why would he? People are proud of themselves and the way they are. Bay is proud of the way he is. As far as he's concerned it's not HIM that needs to change....it's the rest of us.




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Not sure why but this made me chuckle.. Laughing

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Evolusionary wrote:
Also, let's not forget one more crucial thing this interview showed us.

BAY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DESIGNS!!!!!

We now know that Bay okayed the wild mutations because he thought he was "updating" our "dated" designs. He was the one who put flames on Prime. Not his design team. He said it outright "Because I wanted to." Whether it's a hit or miss, history should record that Bay was the architect behind all this deviation.[/i]



Well as Nelson tells us to a boring extreme Bay is "A-list" and A-listers usually have almost total control. Also, only someone who had a flippant sneering contempt for Transformers prior to his shiney cgi-fest would go so far in his re-imagining. There's no respect borne out in these designs at all, it's like two fingers raised if anything.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Master Fwiffo wrote:
That said, that was a shitty interview period. Certainly didn't help a bit with PR, incoherent, lazily slapped together and hardly worth the three minutes it took to watch it.

And him owning up to the flames (which at least he did) sure didn't help.


Agreed.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
It is exactly what it's been advertised as -- a Michael Bay film (that happens to be called Transformers.)

Whether or not his directorial choices work with audiences won't be evident until July. Confused

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
This interview was the worst ________ (fill in the blank with the profane gesture of your chioce) that he could have done. He wasn't making peace with fans. He was thumbing them in the eye. You'd think if he were going to talk about the designs he would try to at the very least be concilliatory. But when he started off the sentence with "I didn't ruin your childhood..." with that adolescent snicker I half expected him to finish by saying ".....but anyone who likes a toy from the 80's didn't have much of a childhood to begin with so you should thank me for giving you losers a life!"

I can't imagine the folks at Dreamworks or Paramount doing anything but passing out when they see this. Even people who like the movie will be turned off when they see this. This was the most HOSTILE interview I've seen any director give. It's the kind of thing you'd expect to see a bitter person say AFTER things have gone south. If he's this rude now I expect him outright screaming profanities if the movie bombs.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Bay is on the defense with this interview thats clear. Arrogant of him to leave the flames on Prime when so many others hated it and wanted it gone. Very pompous of him.

This won't be the only interview from Bay & company that we'll see them in defence of their horrible designs as opening day draws nearer. They'll try very hard to get as many of us out there to just be quiet and accept the new look.

*slams fists into sand* Damn you! You blew it! God damn all of you straight to hell.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
sentinel maximus wrote:
Bay is on the defense with this interview thats clear. Arrogant of him to leave the flames on Prime when so many others hated it and wanted it gone. Very pompous of him.

This won't be the only interview from Bay & company that we'll see them in defence of their horrible designs as opening day draws nearer. They'll try very hard to get as many of us out there to just be quiet and accept the new look.

*slams fists into sand* Damn you! You blew it! God damn all of you straight to hell.



This is the same buffoon that didn't even know how popular Transformers was untill he saw the ratings for the trailer last year. He had no understanding of the popularity or the fondness many have for iconic imagery..I mean look at how he derides the cartoon yet again here. He can't talk about his own movie without deriding something else: insecure much?

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