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pristine_matrix Lost Addict

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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 11:56 am Post subject: NEW Transformers Heroes News |
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| Quote: | 2005 Veteran Kickback has come across some new information on the upcoming Transformers cartoon that contradicts what was previously released elsewhere as news.
- Animation studio NOT Gonzo ... rather it's Answer and Mook. Whether they're associated with Gonzo, no idea.
- Not "anime"
- Only TF related writer that's even submitted details/info is a guy who did some story editting on Beast Machines (ie: NO BEAST WARS WRITERS)
- Character design ... guy from Teen Titans, Legion of Superheroes, Fosters...
- Director ... did work on Teen Titans, X-Men Evolution
- Cartoon Network is partner in the show, not just the airing network
The overall look is brand new ... like nothing seen before in Transformers. It will not look like the Amarda/Energon/Cybertron trilogy.
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That just made me throw up into my mouth a little and I had to swallow it.
I frickin' hate that style of animation. It's slow, it's overly simple, its jerky.
Ugh.
I knew this wouldn't be the show for me. _________________
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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Autobloke wrote: | At least the look is supposedly new - I hated the Energon and Cybertron stuff with the mix of cell and CG. Although I kinda liked the Armada look. I guess it won't be like that either. Maybe it'll have a look without giant eyes on humans for one - I've missed that.
Still, the other news is worrying - it's like the facts were 'massaged' to make it sound better when it was first released to us. |
See, I think Armada's animation is horrible at times. Especially when you consider how gorgeous RID was.
And although Energon style is a little garrish, I think it was REALLY well refined by the time it got to Cybertron.
For me though, it'll always be G1. The show has a design style and charm all its own. No TF show since has come close to have the characters look like the did in that show.
And I respect that old school of animation too. _________________
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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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same animation company doesn't mean same style. probably does, but not necessarily. as long as they don't do cheap-ass anime ripoff gags and styles, I'll give it a go. _________________
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Bubbalou One of the Lost

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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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transformers and kiddy anime don't mix, imo. if it were done like gundam wing or cowboy bebop or something of that sort, it would look kick ass. not that non-anime WOULDN'T be welcome, or anything. _________________
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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Bubbalou wrote: | | transformers and kiddy anime don't mix, imo. if it were done like gundam wing or cowboy bebop or something of that sort, it would look kick ass. not that non-anime WOULDN'T be welcome, or anything. |
I guess I agree with you. But I think that this style of animation that you're talking about is VERY stylised. There are clear differences between Transformers and Gundam. Or say even in comparison to Robotech(which I adore).
I think for it to satisfy me, it would need to be Western designs, animated in the East, but again with Western writing. _________________
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Bubbalou One of the Lost

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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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| pristine_matrix wrote: | | Bubbalou wrote: | | transformers and kiddy anime don't mix, imo. if it were done like gundam wing or cowboy bebop or something of that sort, it would look kick ass. not that non-anime WOULDN'T be welcome, or anything. |
I guess I agree with you. But I think that this style of animation that you're talking about is VERY stylised. There are clear differences between Transformers and Gundam. Or say even in comparison to Robotech(which I adore).
I think for it to satisfy me, it would need to be Western designs, animated in the East, but again with Western writing. | yeah, I know that. what i mean is anything sophisticated-looking. _________________
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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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| pittstop wrote: | hasbro will never go for an all out action, serious edged, adult anime. just doesn't fit with it's target audience.
the fact they know shit about who their real audience is is beside the point.
i think most hasbro execs would have a stroke if they knew how many men and women in their twenties and thirties still buy their product and watch the spin off material.
i would love for it to be wall to wall big robo carnage. |
I dunno about that. The collectors club isn't aimed at 8 year olds.
And to be honest, Beast Wars wasn't aimed at their standard target audience. At least not entirely. It was a rich and deep series that was target at old and new fans alike. No? _________________
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:12 am Post subject: |
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Well if this concept art by Sean "Cheeks" Galloway, who's onboard for the cartoon, is anything to go by - we are going to see some SEVERE dumbing down in design. At one extreme - Baymorphicators, at the other extreme - Heroes. See below. *MEH!*
edit: the above from a news item at Seibertron, plus the following:
- The Animation studio will not be Gonzo, but Answer and Mook and the cartoon will not be 'Anime' in style.
-The look of the series will be 'brand new' to Transformers.
- The only writer previously connected to Transformers that has submitted ideas for the series is one of the story editors on Beast Machines.
- Character design is being done by talent from the Teen Titans, Legion of Superheroes, Fosters series.
- The Director worked on Teen Titans and X-Men Evolution
- Cartoon Network will be partner in the production of the show.
What's that word again... oh yeah. MEH! _________________ **Beyond Canine** |
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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Oh you have gotta be fuckin' kidding me! _________________
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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but... I want TF's that resemble the TF's throughout the last 20 years! not super-stylized Teen fraggin' Titans! I guess this is the "in thing" in current toon design, and so they've just hopped on the bandwagon with it. You think that if it looks like this sort of style that in 20 years time you'll look back fondly on it? I think not. It will age badly. But that's just my view. _________________ **Beyond Canine** |
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Bulldog wrote: | | but... I want TF's that resemble the TF's throughout the last 20 years! not super-stylized Teen fraggin' Titans! I guess this is the "in thing" in current toon design, and so they've just hopped on the bandwagon with it. You think that if it looks like this sort of style that in 20 years time you'll look back fondly on it? I think not. It will age badly. But that's just my view. |
My exact posting on TF Live...
| pristine_matrix wrote: | Really sorry to say this, but those are ****ing awful.
It's supposed to be a Transformers cartoon. Not a Tron-wanna-be.
I knew that it would turn into something all Teen Titans-y. I hate this new breed of animation/design. |
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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It's lazy, cheap-looking, dumbed down, and frankly pathetic. _________________ **Beyond Canine** |
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Bubbalou One of the Lost

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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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kinda looks like that samurai jack / clone wars style.
YUCK!! worked for samurai jack, but didn't for star wars, and won't for transformers.
BAH!!! _________________
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Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Bulldog wrote: | That sounds familiar, Sledgie... weren't we told that with the "early" and "concept" designs for Baymorphicators?  |
Yeah it does but just because the movie is a trainwreck waiting to happen dosent mean this show has to be.  _________________
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