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Talking To Vapour
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 Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 2:15 pm Post subject: More movie-crushing fanart.. |
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Note how it retains a G1 armoured look, yet has lots of movie-style detailing. That's how it is done, not this half-arsed shambling shardformer rubbish.
This is how I expected and hoped Prime would look like.  
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| Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 2:48 pm Post subject: Re: More movie-crushing fanart.. |
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| Talking To Vapour wrote: | http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/57186653/?offset=10
Note how it retains a G1 armoured look, yet has lots of movie-style detailing. That's how it is done, not this half-arsed shambling shardformer rubbish.
This is how I expected and hoped Prime would look like. |
I've decided that every time I read a post like this, I will picture Paris Hilton in the cop car.
That isn't remotely close to movie crushing. It looks like any random bit of Don Figoura art to my eyes. Great comic art. Don't see it translating to the movie form at all.
It's like every time you guys stumble upon some new G1 fanart, you run around screaming 'SEE! IT CAN BE DONE MY WAY BECAUSE SOME GUY CAN DRAW!'. Show me a fan-made CG Prime that looks as convincing as movie Prime in motion, and then I'll be impressed.
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His notes detail how the panels shift over each other as the figure moves and how there is no solid blocks anywhere. I don't see how that is cartoony with the thought he's put into it.
Funny how you're always there to put the dampeners on any movie criticism too.. 
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| Talking To Vapour wrote: | | His notes detail how the panels shift over each other as the figure moves and how there is no solid blocks anywhere. I don't see how that is cartoony with the thought he's put into it. |
I didn't say Cartoony now did I? 
As I said, looks great for comic material, notsomuch for Movie. I still do not believe anything but the exposed look will allow for the mobility needed for TF-On-Tf asskicking.
Unless you believe they should be limited in movement as a weakness, in which case thats an entirely different set of critisims.
| Quote: | | Funny how you're always there to put the dampeners on any movie criticism too.. |
Why not just call me a plant outright and be done with it?
It's because I have no life and spend all day surfing the web.
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| Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 3:00 pm Post subject: Re: More movie-crushing fanart.. |
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| Master Fwiffo wrote: | | Show me a fan-made CG Prime that looks as convincing as movie Prime in motion, and then I'll be impressed. |
I hate that way of putting things down, I like movie Prime (except for the mouth) and I like that picture of Prime.
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| Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 3:02 pm Post subject: Re: More movie-crushing fanart.. |
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| King of Kings wrote: | | Master Fwiffo wrote: | | Show me a fan-made CG Prime that looks as convincing as movie Prime in motion, and then I'll be impressed. |
I hate that way of putting things down, I like movie Prime (except for the mouth) and I like that picture of Prime. |
I suppose I should clarify a bit.
It's a mighty fine drawing of Prime, and a fairly nice design. My major objection comes to people parading it about like its somehow superior to ILM's design and that Bay is a hack and so on and so forth.
When its not 'Look at this awesome fanart', and instead its 'BAY IS SUCH A HACK AND THIS FANART PROVES IT', is it any wonder I'm always on the defensive?
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| Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 3:07 pm Post subject: Re: More movie-crushing fanart.. |
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| Master Fwiffo wrote: | I suppose I should clarify a bit.
It's a mighty fine drawing of Prime, and a fairly nice design. My major objection comes to people parading it about like its somehow superior to ILM's design and that Bay is a hack and so on and so forth. |
I can respect that, as for Bay being a hack that's just personel preference I guess.
| Master Fwiffo wrote: | | is it any wonder I'm always on the defensive? |
I got nothing against you being defensive.
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| Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 3:16 pm Post subject: Re: More movie-crushing fanart.. |
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| Master Fwiffo wrote: |
It's like every time you guys stumble upon some new G1 fanart, you run around screaming 'SEE! IT CAN BE DONE MY WAY BECAUSE SOME GUY CAN DRAW!'. |
How do you know it can't be done Fwiffo? Everything starts with an idea that is put from pencil to paper. Even Bay's stupid designs where on paper first as a draft. I can picture jaws dropping but no one says anything because 'the boss' likes it. Keep mouth closed and pretend you enjoy it and nod your head.
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Show me a fan-made CG Prime that looks as convincing as movie Prime in motion, and then I'll be impressed. |
I don't know about the others, but I don't have the time or the money to show you what a G1 Prime would look like realistically. I would luv to. Maybe if I win the lottery,....hmmph
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The MSmith video is close enough for even the densest among us to realise G1 live-action is very much possible.
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| Master Fwiffo wrote: | | Talking To Vapour wrote: | | His notes detail how the panels shift over each other as the figure moves and how there is no solid blocks anywhere. I don't see how that is cartoony with the thought he's put into it. |
I didn't say Cartoony now did I?
As I said, looks great for comic material, notsomuch for Movie. I still do not believe anything but the exposed look will allow for the mobility needed for TF-On-Tf asskicking.
Unless you believe they should be limited in movement as a weakness, in which case thats an entirely different set of critisims.
| Quote: | | Funny how you're always there to put the dampeners on any movie criticism too.. |
Why not just call me a plant outright and be done with it?
It's because I have no life and spend all day surfing the web. |
Comic designs are in the same ballpark as cartoon designs as far as anti-G1ers go. As for freedom of movement, the MSmith video shows a fairly boxy Transformer with no serious restrictions on it's movement.
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Master Fwiffo
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| Talking To Vapour wrote: | | Master Fwiffo wrote: | | Talking To Vapour wrote: | | His notes detail how the panels shift over each other as the figure moves and how there is no solid blocks anywhere. I don't see how that is cartoony with the thought he's put into it. |
I didn't say Cartoony now did I?
As I said, looks great for comic material, notsomuch for Movie. I still do not believe anything but the exposed look will allow for the mobility needed for TF-On-Tf asskicking.
Unless you believe they should be limited in movement as a weakness, in which case thats an entirely different set of critisims.
| Quote: | | Funny how you're always there to put the dampeners on any movie criticism too.. |
Why not just call me a plant outright and be done with it?
It's because I have no life and spend all day surfing the web. |
Comic designs are in the same ballpark as cartoon designs as far as anti-G1ers go. As for freedom of movement, the MSmith video shows a fairly boxy Transformer with no serious restrictions on it's movement. |
Take a look at the video again. His shoulder pads give him very restricted movement, I doubt his arms could cross across his chest, and he his knee design doesn't give him full human flexibility there either. If you can spot disappearing parts on blackout (  ) surely you can see that too.
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My only major note about the MSmith video (and a couple other videos) is the fact that all you really see is the transformation and then the robot stumbles off screen. It doesn't really give any kind of example of the robots full range of motion or lack there of. As for the fan art,it looks really good. Don't know how well it compares with the movie images however. |
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| Fulgetra wrote: | | My only major note about the MSmith video (and a couple other videos) is the fact that all you really see is the transformation and then the robot stumbles off screen. It doesn't really give any kind of example of the robots full range of motion or lack there of. As for the fan art,it looks really good. Don't know how well it compares with the movie images however. |
Actually it spins around as it stands and you get a glimpse of its movement too as it stumbles. It's easy to tell it's not a cardboard stiff robot.
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| Master Fwiffo wrote: | | Talking To Vapour wrote: | | Master Fwiffo wrote: | | Talking To Vapour wrote: | | His notes detail how the panels shift over each other as the figure moves and how there is no solid blocks anywhere. I don't see how that is cartoony with the thought he's put into it. |
I didn't say Cartoony now did I?
As I said, looks great for comic material, notsomuch for Movie. I still do not believe anything but the exposed look will allow for the mobility needed for TF-On-Tf asskicking.
Unless you believe they should be limited in movement as a weakness, in which case thats an entirely different set of critisims.
| Quote: | | Funny how you're always there to put the dampeners on any movie criticism too.. |
Why not just call me a plant outright and be done with it?
It's because I have no life and spend all day surfing the web. |
Comic designs are in the same ballpark as cartoon designs as far as anti-G1ers go. As for freedom of movement, the MSmith video shows a fairly boxy Transformer with no serious restrictions on it's movement. |
Take a look at the video again. His shoulder pads give him very restricted movement, I doubt his arms could cross across his chest, and he his knee design doesn't give him full human flexibility there either. If you can spot disappearing parts on blackout ( ) surely you can see that too. |
You're earning your salary well.
Your doubts aren't facts, and I just looked at the video again, his knees look fine to me. As for the shoulders, well look at Blackout, he has a mountain of stuff on and around his shoulder and head, so I'm not seeing the problem here..
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| Talking To Vapour wrote: | | Master Fwiffo wrote: | | Talking To Vapour wrote: | | Master Fwiffo wrote: | | Talking To Vapour wrote: | | His notes detail how the panels shift over each other as the figure moves and how there is no solid blocks anywhere. I don't see how that is cartoony with the thought he's put into it. |
I didn't say Cartoony now did I?
As I said, looks great for comic material, notsomuch for Movie. I still do not believe anything but the exposed look will allow for the mobility needed for TF-On-Tf asskicking.
Unless you believe they should be limited in movement as a weakness, in which case thats an entirely different set of critisims.
| Quote: | | Funny how you're always there to put the dampeners on any movie criticism too.. |
Why not just call me a plant outright and be done with it?
It's because I have no life and spend all day surfing the web. |
Comic designs are in the same ballpark as cartoon designs as far as anti-G1ers go. As for freedom of movement, the MSmith video shows a fairly boxy Transformer with no serious restrictions on it's movement. |
Take a look at the video again. His shoulder pads give him very restricted movement, I doubt his arms could cross across his chest, and he his knee design doesn't give him full human flexibility there either. If you can spot disappearing parts on blackout ( ) surely you can see that too. |
You're earning your salary well. |
You have no idea how much I wish I could get paid for doing this.
| Quote: | | Your doubts aren't facts, and I just looked at the video again, his knees look fine to me. As for the shoulders, well look at Blackout, he has a mountain of stuff on and around his shoulder and head, so I'm not seeing the problem here.. |
I watched it frame-by-frame and the knees looked to me like they only had up-and-down movement, no turning ability.
It's ok (by me) for some TF's to have such restrictions (such as Blackout, seeing as he's more then a living tank then a warrior who needs mobility), but a normal car-Autobot should not.
Which is just my opinion, of course.
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