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Conceptron Protoform
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 7:01 pm Post subject: Bay thinks Transformers are just 'Giant F***ing Robots!!!' |
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Yep, it was right from our best friend's mouth when he talked of wanting to release the film on July 3rd.
From the latest trailer, we did not hear single WORD from any of the Bots. Instead, it was human stuff after human stuff. One can easily forget that this is a TRANSFORMERS movie. Don't give me that rubbish of saving stuff for the movie. Imagine paying for your ticket in the movie and finding out that most of the bots speak Cybertronian and Prime and Megatron along with Barricade are the only ones that speak English. That would SUCK.
I think that there are many who don't know what makes Transformers so amazing. It's not just about robots bumping into each other. It's about the story of these ruthless Decepticons who battle these Autobots who triumph through good leadership and organization. It's about the great characterizations of Prime, Megatron, Starscream, Jazz and so on...That is the core of the story. I don't want to see some action-fest with 'money shots' and the same old human cheesy story-lines. GIVE ME TRANSFORMERS!!!!
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Master Fwiffo Lost Addict

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Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 4:39 am Post subject: |
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they must all speak, why else would there be voice actors signed up for all tf parts? |
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Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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Judging from the trailers alone, it seemed that the movie Bridge to Terabithia took what was a great book about friendship, life and death and turned it into some fantasy adventure.
As a fan of the book, I was very skeptical of the movie because of what was shown in the trailers. Upon seeing the movie, I found it to be an adaptation that was very true to the book, with only a few changes that helped to modernize the story and didn't really take away from it at all. In fact, it ended up being a very powerful film, in my opinion.
I'll be saving my final judgment of the TF movie until after I've seen the entire thing, and will not be basing it off of fragments shown in trailers. Why waste time and create frustration over speculation? _________________ <hr> | Michael Bay wrote: | | I had no idea Transformers would have so many fans around the world. |
| Spike Witwicky wrote: | | Oh shit! What do we do now?! |
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Talking To Vapour Lost Post Whore
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Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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Bay has never referred to the Transformers as characters in any interview he's done.
Think about that. _________________ Masterpiece wishlist:
Galvatron
Shockwave
Devastator
Grimlock (dino)
Sludge (dino)
Slag (dino)
Megatron (tank)
Ultra Magnus (with trailer)
Inferno
Soundwave
Ironhide
Blitzwing
Astrotrain
Warpath
Upscaled Starscream |
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KneonT One of the Lost

 Joined: 26 Aug 2006 Posts: 1710 Location: East Coast, USA
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 3:25 am Post subject: |
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| Xaxis wrote: | | Judging from the trailers alone, it seemed that the movie Bridge to Terabithia took what was a great book about friendship, life and death and turned it into some fantasy adventure. |
Terabithia was the worst movie ad campaign EVER. Totally mis-marketed that film. What, Disney didn't think a flick based on a time-honored, classic novel could stand on its own? Had to make it look like Narnia 2? _________________
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KneonT One of the Lost

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Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 3:25 am Post subject: |
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| Talking To Vapour wrote: | Bay has never referred to the Transformers as characters in any interview he's done.
Think about that. |
I have. I try not to, but I have.  _________________
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Xaxis Lost Addict

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Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Talking To Vapour wrote: | | Bay has never referred to the Transformers as characters in any interview he's done. |
Um, yes he has:
| On 5/15/07, The Movie Blog wrote: |
TMovie Blog (et. al): Obviously this is setup to be a franchise. So are you going to come back to it and do the sequel?
Michael Bay:
Well, I've had a great time making it. I really have. It's gone really smoothly this movie and it's been a lot of fun. So we'll see. It's really fun to actually – I've done a lot of visual FX before, but this is really fun because you're really animating characters who have a sort of different thing going on in the way that they walk or the way that they're armor is scratched.
TMB: How do you do that kind of stuff before you've hired the voice actors yet? How do you work on the characters without that part done?
MB: Well, first you write down what all the characters points are in your head... |
Granted, that was only once and he made little sense in that interview (as usual). Still, he did refer to them as characters. _________________ <hr> | Michael Bay wrote: | | I had no idea Transformers would have so many fans around the world. |
| Spike Witwicky wrote: | | Oh shit! What do we do now?! |
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Talking To Vapour Lost Post Whore
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Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 2:12 am Post subject: |
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Well as you said that is so vague as to be meaningless in regards to what I was talking about. He has never mentioned details of the characters, he never even talks about their personalities on a surface level, it's just "giant fucking robots are coming/fighting!".. _________________ Masterpiece wishlist:
Galvatron
Shockwave
Devastator
Grimlock (dino)
Sludge (dino)
Slag (dino)
Megatron (tank)
Ultra Magnus (with trailer)
Inferno
Soundwave
Ironhide
Blitzwing
Astrotrain
Warpath
Upscaled Starscream |
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Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 8:20 am Post subject: |
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| Xaxis wrote: | | Talking To Vapour wrote: | | Bay has never referred to the Transformers as characters in any interview he's done. |
Um, yes he has:
| On 5/15/07, The Movie Blog wrote: |
TMovie Blog (et. al): Obviously this is setup to be a franchise. So are you going to come back to it and do the sequel?
Michael Bay:
Well, I've had a great time making it. I really have. It's gone really smoothly this movie and it's been a lot of fun. So we'll see. It's really fun to actually – I've done a lot of visual FX before, but this is really fun because you're really animating characters who have a sort of different thing going on in the way that they walk or the way that they're armor is scratched.
TMB: How do you do that kind of stuff before you've hired the voice actors yet? How do you work on the characters without that part done?
MB: Well, first you write down what all the characters points are in your head... |
Granted, that was only once and he made little sense in that interview (as usual). Still, he did refer to them as characters. |
Well, the first 'characters' thing there is him talking about the visual effects and how they walk and how their armour is scratched. Doesn't really come off as 'character' how most of us would be thinking of it. It's just Bay getting moist over the effects again really.
The second mention he seems to be talking about what he considers their characters are (coming from his head). Of course, Bay thinks Bumblebee is a gun-toting mute racecar warrior...  _________________
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Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 9:12 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Giant fucking robots are coming.
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So according to Bay giant robots are having sex and ejaculating.  _________________
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sentinel maximus Lost Member
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Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Giant fucking robots are coming.
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I'm beginning to hate this colorful little Bay catchphrase.
There will be no emphasis on Transformer as characters. Only clear whos the leader, who are the bad guys are (the TFs with the bug faces & teeth. ), and cheap dumb jokes. (ex. dog peeing on Ironhide.) _________________ "The paltry armies of the universe are but play things to me."
Kill your killer.
Stop the slaughter.
Initiating battle protocol. |
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Conceptron Protoform
 Joined: 22 May 2007 Posts: 4
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Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 11:33 am Post subject: |
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| Talking To Vapour wrote: | | Well as you said that is so vague as to be meaningless in regards to what I was talking about. He has never mentioned details of the characters, he never even talks about their personalities on a surface level, it's just "giant fucking robots are coming/fighting!".. |
That phrase right there just spells it out plainly that Bay does NOT get the Transformers characters. They are just going to come across as one-dimensional and forgettable.
Bay, BAY, BAY, BAY!!!!!!  |
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Blackberry Protoform
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Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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Strike, an a miss michael bay an co. Of course these characters wont have any personality, no depth, no sense of humor. the decepticons are just cannonfodder & eyecandy... there basically robot monsters that utter maybe a grunt... or a growl we might only hear one no...two lines from each character... an thats pushing it lol. None of the trailers & spotlights feel transformary in any way or form, there are more talented people out there on the net than this production crew will ever be.
Also i find it amusing the first sign of hating in awhile. Don murphy has to post a thread an a link to his loving stooges so they'll start brown nosing an kissing his fat ass thanks for the link Don, without it i wouldn't of been able to post this
nice to grace us with your presence Master Fwiffo
oh yeah what did don say.
yeah you said the same about LXGM[/quote] |
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Talking To Vapour Lost Post Whore
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Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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_________________ Masterpiece wishlist:
Galvatron
Shockwave
Devastator
Grimlock (dino)
Sludge (dino)
Slag (dino)
Megatron (tank)
Ultra Magnus (with trailer)
Inferno
Soundwave
Ironhide
Blitzwing
Astrotrain
Warpath
Upscaled Starscream |
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Blackberry Protoform
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Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Talking To Vapour wrote: | | Greetings, Blackberry. |
Thanks for the warm welcome vapour |
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King of Kings Lost Addict

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Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 5:57 am Post subject: |
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| Blackberry wrote: | Also i find it amusing the first sign of hating in awhile. Don murphy has to post a thread an a link to his loving stooges so they'll start brown nosing an kissing his fat ass thanks for the link Don, without it i wouldn't of been able to post this
nice to grace us with your presence Master Fwiffo
oh yeah what did don say. |
I kind of agree with some of the things said on DM.net, there does seem to be a lot of bitching going on nowdays just for the sake of bitching.
Fwiffo has every right to post here, after all these boards were set up so people could post their opinions without being flammed. _________________
| Master Fwiffo wrote: | | It's because I have no life and spend all day surfing the web. |
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Blackberry Protoform
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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Well good on her, i didn't say she couldn't post on here. an i sticking with what i said. cause frankly i dont give a crap what the most annoying stooge has to say.
her...it... whatever the hell it is.. just trys to flames anyone who disagrees. an uses the G.1 argument.
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Master Fwiffo Lost Addict

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Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Blackberry wrote: | Well good on her, i didn't say she couldn't post on here. an i sticking with what i said. cause frankly i dont give a crap what the most annoying stooge has to say.
her...it... whatever the hell it is.. just trys to flames anyone who disagrees. an uses the G.1 argument.
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Bonecrusher Hates Gender Confusion.
Obviously your someone who I've flamed in the past, but believe it or not I don't (depending on my mood, that is). There are quite a few ranters I actually like, and several who actually like me (I think). There are also certain ones who really get my goat, and I know I get many peoples goat as well - this is obviously a culture that deals heavily with Goats, though what for I don't know.
You'll find that I do have a point from time to time, but my main beef is and always has been the kind who dislike any change from the original whatsoever. TF is and always has been an evolving, changing franchise, and while some of these changes are far too dramatic for some, I like most of them immensly (though even I admit Prime really could do without the Flames). I was not drawn to a particular generation of TF's, I was drawn to the idea of a War between Good and Evil staring Sentient Transforming Alien Robots, with Heroes and Villians and all being larger then life charecters.
And as long as that remains, I shall be pleased to continue being a Raver. _________________
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Talking To Vapour Lost Post Whore
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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| King of Kings wrote: |
I kind of agree with some of the things said on DM.net, there does seem to be a lot of bitching going on nowdays just for the sake of bitching. |
No more so than the excessive praise lavished over every single trailer or tv spot recently..Just let people say their piece without throwing a hissy fit because they don't like a precious film.. _________________ Masterpiece wishlist:
Galvatron
Shockwave
Devastator
Grimlock (dino)
Sludge (dino)
Slag (dino)
Megatron (tank)
Ultra Magnus (with trailer)
Inferno
Soundwave
Ironhide
Blitzwing
Astrotrain
Warpath
Upscaled Starscream |
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Talking To Vapour Lost Post Whore
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Master Fwiffo wrote: |
I was not drawn to a particular generation of TF's, I was drawn to the idea of a War between Good and Evil staring Sentient Transforming Alien Robots, with Heroes and Villians and all being larger then life charecters.
And as long as that remains, I shall be pleased to continue being a Raver. |
But many are drawn to particular continuities of TFs, perhaps you should bear that in mind the next time you go off shrieking about the horrors of G1.. _________________ Masterpiece wishlist:
Galvatron
Shockwave
Devastator
Grimlock (dino)
Sludge (dino)
Slag (dino)
Megatron (tank)
Ultra Magnus (with trailer)
Inferno
Soundwave
Ironhide
Blitzwing
Astrotrain
Warpath
Upscaled Starscream |
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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Wassup Blackberry! Welcome.
Fwiffo and the like don't bother me. I'm always open for a debate. I hate to flame and when possible never do only when provoked. I like to keep discussions civil. Its the morons who get rude with the name calling and such that irk me. Just take a look at the message board on Yahoo. Terrible. I swear everyone that posts there are all twelve year olds or at least act like it.
Don Murphy and the subject on bitching? He does the same. So what? Hes really taking this personal. What a tool. If the core fanbase has a problem with the new TF movie, they have every right to complain. I've invested alot of time and money on TF. I was glad the way the X-MEN films turned out (1 & 2 only really. Brett Ratner's work on 3 sucks!), the STAR WARS prequels where okay IMO (sure there was some bad things about it but overall it was fine.) And now this new live action TF movie makes me nervous what the future brings for the franchise. _________________ "The paltry armies of the universe are but play things to me."
Kill your killer.
Stop the slaughter.
Initiating battle protocol. |
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Talking To Vapour Lost Post Whore
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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It's a bit petty to make a thread bashing an entire forum, I agree.. Some people actually stay true to their opinions and don't fold like a house of cards when the hype and peer pressure rolls around. _________________ Masterpiece wishlist:
Galvatron
Shockwave
Devastator
Grimlock (dino)
Sludge (dino)
Slag (dino)
Megatron (tank)
Ultra Magnus (with trailer)
Inferno
Soundwave
Ironhide
Blitzwing
Astrotrain
Warpath
Upscaled Starscream |
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Master Fwiffo Lost Addict

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Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Talking To Vapour wrote: | | Master Fwiffo wrote: |
I was not drawn to a particular generation of TF's, I was drawn to the idea of a War between Good and Evil staring Sentient Transforming Alien Robots, with Heroes and Villians and all being larger then life charecters.
And as long as that remains, I shall be pleased to continue being a Raver. |
But many are drawn to particular continuities of TFs, perhaps you should bear that in mind the next time you go off shrieking about the horrors of G1.. |
I bear that in mind quite a bit.
And IMO, praising one for something while faulting something else for the same flaws ever present in the original is one of the things that causes that whole goat-getting thing I mentioned. (Did that make any sense at all? No? Thought not.)
Really, Cybertron and RID are at least on par with anything and everything G1 did. If you fault one of those for something while giving G1 a pass, I'll call you on it. Armada and The-Show-Which-Shall-Not-Be-Named-For-Being-A-Bastradization-Of-Super-Link have a different set of problems entirely, and hell, BW, BM, and of course the immortal G1 all have flaws out the wazoo. But there's a lot of good to be found in ALL TF's, and each has their own large and signifigant contributions to the overaching mythos, if you're just willing to look for it.
Ok, ok, I'll get off the soap box now. Sorry. ^^' _________________
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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| King of Kings wrote: | | Quote: | Giant fucking robots are coming.
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So according to Bay giant robots are having sex and ejaculating.  |
Well yes. Some of us are.
However I didn't give Bay Permission to film it! That sick bastard!
Where can I get the name of Pamela and Tommy Lee's lawyer!?! |
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