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Talking To Vapour Lost Post Whore
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 3:53 pm Post subject: MSmith FTW! |
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Amazing.
With some tweaking, this would look perfect.
No G1 boxiness in live-action is possible you say?
Wrong. _________________ Masterpiece wishlist:
Galvatron
Shockwave
Devastator
Grimlock (dino)
Sludge (dino)
Slag (dino)
Megatron (tank)
Ultra Magnus (with trailer)
Inferno
Soundwave
Ironhide
Blitzwing
Astrotrain
Warpath
Upscaled Starscream |
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Dr. Watson Lost Addict

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sentinel maximus Lost Member
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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Thats exactly how I would picture the movie!
With alittle more CG and alittle more money,... voila! _________________ "The paltry armies of the universe are but play things to me."
Kill your killer.
Stop the slaughter.
Initiating battle protocol. |
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Xaxis Lost Addict

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Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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Now THAT'S a Transformer!!!
At first I thought it was going to be his VW Bug from several years ago. This was awesome, and just goes to show that the movie designs didn't have to be done that way. _________________ <hr> | Michael Bay wrote: | | I had no idea Transformers would have so many fans around the world. |
| Spike Witwicky wrote: | | Oh shit! What do we do now?! |
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Master Fwiffo Lost Addict

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Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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Not bad. Looks cool.
IMO, lacks the visual flair that the ILM TF's have.
-edit- Before ya'll pounce on me, lemee explain.
A couple years ago, if you had shown me that and said 'this is what the Live Action TF movie will look like', I would have gone 'HELL YA! That's EXACTLY what I wanted! WOOOO!'.
But after seeing the visual orgasim of Bays TF's in motion, bringing the idea back from Sentient Aliens with Piloted Mech Designs (IE Diaclone) to actual sentient alien robot designs, it really doesn't seem to have the same flair for me. I love the complex as hell transformations, I love the broken up designs that incorporate every single part of the car, and I love the new 'not metal man, alienesque faces' look, because to me, it all brings it back to the primary point of Transformers: Sentient, Alien Robots in an Eternal War between Good and Evil.
Now, that isn't to say I couldn't live without better proportions for Starscream (though in recent shots he looks fine to me), no flames on Prime and a faceplate, and a white and red Ratchet, but really, all things considered, I far prefer the new incarnation of TF's to the original.
And if that makes me 'Not a True Fan' then the hell with it. I'll settle for being a fake fan and paramount plant. _________________
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Talking To Vapour Lost Post Whore
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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I prefer Transformers to look like Transformers.
Not bastardise elements from a myriad of other films.
Anyway, yeah, this MSmith has created the best evidence yet that a strongly G1 aesthetic has no problems translating to live-action. It's funny, the design is boxy and yet it has no problems moving contrary to what so many unimaginative trolls said would happen if that style was used.
Abother thing I liked was that it looked complex while staying true to Transformers in style and look. _________________ Masterpiece wishlist:
Galvatron
Shockwave
Devastator
Grimlock (dino)
Sludge (dino)
Slag (dino)
Megatron (tank)
Ultra Magnus (with trailer)
Inferno
Soundwave
Ironhide
Blitzwing
Astrotrain
Warpath
Upscaled Starscream |
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poisoncow One of the Lost

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KneonT One of the Lost

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Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 7:05 am Post subject: |
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| poisoncow wrote: |
Mind you I'm no supporter of the movie designs, I just think that there's a better compromise than what we've seen |
Somewhere in between would be nice, yeah. I like the complexity of the movie transformations -- I just don't like how kibble-fied the end result looks, if that makes sense. If they could transform with ILM's complexity, yet somehow manage to pull together a more solid-looking 'bot AND retain more visual cues from their G1 counterparts (i.e. -- Megatron still looks like Megatron, even if much more complex), I'd be satisfied.
But for a fan video, this is freakin' awesome. Looks better than some of the CGI in Spider-Man, anyway.  _________________
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 7:20 am Post subject: |
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But for a fan video, this is freakin' awesome. Looks better than some of the CGI in Spider-Man, anyway.  |
Of course, my butt could produce better CGI then Spider-Man.  _________________
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Talking To Vapour Lost Post Whore
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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Well obviously there would be more complexity and nuances in the final product. This is a one-man project after all, but he has the framework in place to show that G1 would be possible. _________________ Masterpiece wishlist:
Galvatron
Shockwave
Devastator
Grimlock (dino)
Sludge (dino)
Slag (dino)
Megatron (tank)
Ultra Magnus (with trailer)
Inferno
Soundwave
Ironhide
Blitzwing
Astrotrain
Warpath
Upscaled Starscream |
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Master Fwiffo wrote: | | It's because I have no life and spend all day surfing the web. |
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KneonT One of the Lost

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Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 5:32 am Post subject: |
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| Talking To Vapour wrote: | | Well obviously there would be more complexity and nuances in the final product. This is a one-man project after all, but he has the framework in place to show that G1 would be possible. |
What, someone said it wasn't possible to do realistic G1 in live-action?
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Oh, yeah. That's right.
If a lone fan can do THAT, imagine what ILM could've pulled off.  _________________
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Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Master Fwiffo wrote: | Of course, my butt could produce better CGI then Spider-Man.  |
Crap, GastroIntestinal? _________________ <hr> | Michael Bay wrote: | | I had no idea Transformers would have so many fans around the world. |
| Spike Witwicky wrote: | | Oh shit! What do we do now?! |
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Talking To Vapour Lost Post Whore
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Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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| KneonT wrote: | | Talking To Vapour wrote: | | Well obviously there would be more complexity and nuances in the final product. This is a one-man project after all, but he has the framework in place to show that G1 would be possible. |
What, someone said it wasn't possible to do realistic G1 in live-action?
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Oh, yeah. That's right.
If a lone fan can do THAT, imagine what ILM could've pulled off.  |
Exactly how I feel. So frustrating to see what was possible and they botched it. Also, MSmith said he's nearly finished a G1 Prime animation so that should be interesting.. _________________ Masterpiece wishlist:
Galvatron
Shockwave
Devastator
Grimlock (dino)
Sludge (dino)
Slag (dino)
Megatron (tank)
Ultra Magnus (with trailer)
Inferno
Soundwave
Ironhide
Blitzwing
Astrotrain
Warpath
Upscaled Starscream |
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KneonT One of the Lost

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Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 5:11 am Post subject: |
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| Talking To Vapour wrote: |
Exactly how I feel. So frustrating to see what was possible and they botched it. Also, MSmith said he's nearly finished a G1 Prime animation so that should be interesting.. |
If he uses the Masterpiece Prime as a reference, you'd have the G1 looks with a fairly complex transformation AND a high degree of mobility.
That could be very, very sweet.  _________________
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 7:32 am Post subject: |
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I suspect it will use a lot of the MP design with more detailed, robotic legs and joints (ie how movie Prime should have looked if Bay had any balls). _________________ Masterpiece wishlist:
Galvatron
Shockwave
Devastator
Grimlock (dino)
Sludge (dino)
Slag (dino)
Megatron (tank)
Ultra Magnus (with trailer)
Inferno
Soundwave
Ironhide
Blitzwing
Astrotrain
Warpath
Upscaled Starscream |
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Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 5:18 pm Post subject: That Video was Unreal! |
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Not that it really needed to be reitereated any further, but yes indeed, this movie could have stayed true to the original design elements and STILL had an incredible look to it. If that is what a 2 man crew of amateurs could do, ILM with it's hundreds of animators could have done FAR better without the lame excuses.
The only people who didn't believe it, unfortunately, were the ones making the film.
As the famous "Bay-Vision" parody made clear, Mr. Michael Smith wouldn't have made it past the job interview. |
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